YaReally’s Last Stand

I don’t really get involved in these internet beefs.

But the best commentor on Rollo’s blog is an old school PUA that goes by the name Yareally.

Reposting this in case it gets deleted

Weird, I haven’t posted in this thread at all and it’s still full of petty snark, guys insulting me, condescension, misrepresentation of everyone’s points, and no one actually talking about Rollo’s article. The RSD videos and I are CLEARLY the problem around here. But don’t worry, this’ll probably be my last post.

@Rollo
Tyler made a video just for you specifically, I time-stamped it at 1:25:27 so no one wastes their time on this useless advertising content:

He’s extending an invite if you want it. Can you make it to 1:28:28 without turning it off? Because I bet you turn it off after the first 30 seconds cause you’ll interpret his first sentence as an attack and the ego-sting and negative assumptions of his intentions you’ll make won’t let you listen to even this little 3 minute snippet lol Try making this 3 minutes the ONE bit of RSD content posted in the last few years that you actually watch.

Compare what he’s saying in that video to your behavior in the last thread and this entire thread (from the dozens of Tyler quote-mines (which take seconds to google but paragraphs to explain the ACTUAL context behind and just result in receiving a reply of more random quote-mines to defend the context of because you don’t actually WANT a discussion, you’re just petty shitposting at this point the same way Jezebel will probably do with your work someday…note that when I reply to people I reply to their entire posts line by line instead of quote-mining one thing out of context to misrepresent them, that’s why my posts are huge), to the taking joy making fun of Mystery’s depression (tell us again how you totally care about men…or at least the ones that agree with everything you say, right? Same thing SJWs/Feminsts do, care about you while you’re in the club but too much wrongthink and you’re out! Hopefully he kills himself so you can use it as an advertising point to brag about how much better TRM is than PUA some more, and yes, we notice how shitty what you’re doing is but no one wants to say it out loud because we keep hoping your emotional tantrum will end and you’ll go back to being a cool chill respectable OMG instead of embarrassing yourself like this), to the taking INSANE levels of over-reactive butthurt offense to people who aren’t even talking shit to you (as Scray and I have explained over and over), just because some people don’t agree with everything you write (what, RSD Luke didn’t fully approve of 100% of your writing?? BLASPHEMY!! He must be trying to destroy his competition!! He said Tony Robbins is cool so they must have a paid deal, it couldn’t be that he found value in Tony’s work and found some problems in mine!! It couldn’t just be that maybe your writing isn’t 100% perfect in the eyes of guys who go out regularly and test shit, just like I and the other guys who go out and test your ideas have been pointing out over the years (but hey, you don’t need to learn anymore, you’re 14 years in, you’re the TEACHER now, everyone stand at the bottom of the mountain and just listen to your wisdom, and whatever you do don’t watch those RSD infields that make you ask questions, just trust me that you can’t get into VIP service despite most PUAs who go out and practice that can do it and explain how they do it step by step), to attacking PEOPLE instead of their IDEAS (you can’t argue the stuff we show, so you resort to trying to attack the person explaining it hoping that people will disregard their content if you can slander them enough, standard SJW/Feminist tactics), to now jumping on the “RSD is all fake infield, paid actresses, paid models” which just shows that you don’t go out and actively do pickup for you to think the footage they get would HAVE to be paid actresses to get (and if you do decide to start going out and testing this stuff, record it so people can link your videos instead of Evil Manipulative RSD’s Free Content That Brainwashes Incel Newbies)

Although hey, if we’re going to point at Mystery and laugh that how he behaves (what an idiot suffering from depression lolol guess he shouldn’t have done that PUA trickery shit, everyone at RSD will probably kill themselves because PUA = makes you depressed and suicidal according to Rollo now that PUA doesn’t agree with some of his ideas) represents the end result of what he teaches…then flipping that around and applying it to the OMGs here, you guys act like petty gossiping 15yo girls just shitting on everything that isn’t a part of your clique. And you guys are in your 40s+. You think any of this thread is “role model alpha male” behavior from you guys? That ANYONE is reading these comments thinking “I want to be like these guys quote-mining Tyler and trying to tear people down and condescend and insult them and get butthurt sensitive and over-reactive to any criticism anyone gives me”? lol I mean is the behavior you guys are displaying in this thread the end result of your guys’ OMG teachings? Because the end result leaves a lot to be desired. I encourage anyone reading this to go back to the start of this “The Unbearable Rightness of Being Female” and read the comment section, this has been a beautiful display of high-value OMGs being super high-value lol

I can guarantee you if any of your marriages fell apart, or you lost access to your kids etc, guys like Mystery and Tyler finding out about it would be the first to say “shit, that sucks dude” and offer help/support instead of laughing and pointing their fingers at you to discredit your books and you as a person. But THIS behavior is the real OMG STATUS(TM)(TM) of real boss successful older men that we should all want to aspire to be. How about you one of you badass inspiring OMGs DEMONSTRATE this Red Pill mastery you have and shoot the guys some Rollo books or open the lines of communication? Whoops, wouldn’t want to do that with the “competition”.

And of course, as expected, I’m now being painted as a guy who just manipulates naive incels despite repeatedly encouraging them to think for themselves and disregard what Tyler or myself says and go out and test it for themselves (what reason would I even have to spend my free time trying to, what, build a cult, for all the no products I don’t sell?). And painted as a guy who says “ONLY LEARN EXTERNAL GAME NEVER EVER LEARN INTERNAL GAME EVER IT’S USELESS GARBAGE EXTERNALS ARE THE ONLY THING THAT MATTER” when I’ve REPEATEDLY said (go ahead and check my archive) that a balance is necessary and the two feed into eachother and build eachother and that newbies are easier to teach when you give them externals to work on so they can gain some positive feedback to start building better internals with and then the pendulum swings back and forth as they grow and progress), and that I’ve apparently said hobbies are all a waste of time (lol no, I said climbing mountains doesn’t trigger sexual attraction in women, subcomms trigger sexual attraction and climbing a mountain might give you some decent subcomms but you’ll get more relevant subcomms faster by sarging, and that you should only hyperfocus on game (not pussy, GAME, there are nuances in that) for a period so you can get a good start on this and then do all that other hobby shit and balance yourself out (which is what PUAs including RSD have been recommending for YEARS). And painted as a guy who hates all the women I’m with when I’ve said no such thing and am perfectly happy and have been for years and have talked about that repeatedly (it’s all in my archives) and choose not to get into deeper relationships because I have other shit going on in my life and I enjoy the variety. And painted as a guy who said ignore everything the OMGs or TRM ever says (which is retarded, scray has pointed out multiple times that we’ve praised these guys and the writing on TRM but are just pointing out that there are nuances and better ways to reach and help men digest these concepts besides talking AT them) and insulted them all (the only thing I ever said that was even close to ACTUALLY offensive was “your post-wall wives aren’t 10s in the SMP” and that’s just an inarguable reality, sorry guys, but Blax & crew got ego-butthurt over that interpreting that as me saying their wives are all ugly shit). And painted as a guy with bitter incel baggage (lol no I was just a social retard, I hang with lots of Naturals I don’t resent them, that’s projection from anyone who thinks that that’s my mentality lol). And all the discussions we’ve had will be painted as “he was clearly wrong and we were clearly right” even though that wasn’t the case at all, but guys know no one will go through my archives and actually read for themselves so they’re free to rewrite history.

For anyone who hears about all the “horrible” things I do and am, feel free to look through my archive and see for yourself how much of this will be history being rewritten by the TRM hugbox.

Haven’t decided if I’m leaving but I’m too tired to keep putting up a fight right now because of the time investment involved in these 10 VS 1 fights…now that Rollo himself has joined in the doggypile and is finally showing how anti-PUA in general he is, there’s no way I can really compete with that. First it’s deleting my content without warning like he’s already done, then it’s joining the shitposting doggypile (no discussion, just memes and quote mining and misrepresentation and side-tangents and character assassinations) like this thread, then it’ll be editing my content to remove or rewrite things I’ve said to make me look dumb, then it’ll be a flat out ban and doxxing me, I know how this works I’ve seen forums get censored by angry hosts before (reddit & spez most recently). Posting here is a massive net negative for me when I have to spend 90% of my posts just defending myself or some Tyler quote-mine or a bunch of snark and worry about my posts being deleted, censored, edited, etc and navigate a minefield of OMG emotional feels-triggers just to explain to Hank “hey, here’s how to make out with that girl you talked to”…Talking game is a fun hobby but I know when to call it a night, and that’s when the host of the site himself is on full attack of me, every PUA instructor (except the ones he approves of, I’m sure another “brilliant” Krauser revelation of concepts that have already been mapped out in full, will be the topic of another article), the PUA community in general, and PUA as a system (the view here now is the same view Jezebel has of PUA, talk about a plot twist lol).

It’s clear that PUA is just garbage parlor tricks to the guys here, their true opinions are finally coming out in this thread and the last one. Quite frankly it’s nice to see Rollo FINALLY being honest about what he ACTUALLY thinks about PUA, I noticed glimpses of it over the last 6 months even though he tries to stay out of the fights. He doesn’t WANT to start a Field Report board guys, and he KNOWS it. He doesn’t give a shit about FRs, FRs just risk him having to revise some of his ideas when guys go out and disprove stuff like “looks don’t matter” or bring out more material for the OMGs to argue isn’t happening out there. If he was as honest as the OMGs brag about with all their honor and integrity shit, he would just say “look, fuck off PUAs, I don’t want your shit here, I don’t even think it works or is legitimate and will just make you all suicidal so I don’t want discussion of it here, or for men to see information that might turn their lives around (as many men have admitted), I’m busy building a Brand(TM) and you PUAs are fucking it up”) Just be honest dude, it’s your blog you can do whatever you want, be your own MPO, you don’t want to help men that way so why keep pretending? So no one says anything bad about you or the TRM Brand(TM)? The guys who write FRs won’t sit around hating on you for it the way you invest this much time hating on Tyler, Mystery, Luke etc, they’ll just be a little disappointed in seeing behind the curtain, like I am. Even Scray won’t shit on the Brand(TM) if you don’t start an FR section (because he LIKES TRM despite what your ego-butthurt overreaction of his opinion is), so go ahead and just tell everyone you don’t want to do it. Follow your own advice and just own your feelings dude.

That’s what deleting my VIP clubgame RSD video was about (that I posted entirely to help the guys going out that night, I had no idea Rollo even viewed a content-heavy video like that that doesn’t even mention bootcamps or products, as advertising, you can read the original post and see I tagged everyone and was excited to share just GOOD USEFUL INFORMATION for them to apply), Rollo has been trotting out his “I really appreciate YaReally and the PUAs for their infield experience that balances out my theory” feel-good PR line for the sake of the Brand(TM) for months when in reality he’s been fucking STEWING about this shit and that VIP game video (that he didn’t even watch, as he demonstrated last thread equating VIP in the middle of a club with no rope with VIP cabanas lol) triggered an emotional butthurt reaction because I guess Luke didn’t praise his work enough and he assumes anyone RSD praises must have marketing deals etc to scam and manipulate naive incel newbies with, and Rollo finally let the calm cool Red Pill image slip and lashed out emotionally instead of having a reasonable adult discussion about it (like the rest of us would have expected from him, that’s why everyone was like “dude wtf??” in that thread…I mean what happened to all your boss internals that are so important and all you OMGs have dude? Does TRM’s teachings create over-reactive ego-invested old men who get butthurt on the internet?? Guys who hold their real opinions back pretending they aren’t mad when they’re fucking STEWING at every FR or RSD vid posted? lol I certainly wouldn’t say that TRM causes that, I think TRM is fucking GREAT and as I’ve said since day one it should go hand in hand with PUA and personally I’m GLAD the RSD crew is finally looking at TRM and hope the rest of the PUA community does too, as a great supplement to PUA…but going by YOUR logic that you’re using to discredit PUAs now, well, apparently how you act represents the inevitable end result of what you teach…quite the precedent to set, if your marriage happens to fail do we just throw out your 5 years of writing here? Personally I wouldn’t say that that’s fair or makes any sense but you’re the one setting the precedent during your emotional tantrum right now). But Rollo didn’t expect that so many guys ACTUALLY got use out of the RSD vids because he’s never actually WATCHED them (“Do RSD have any videos NOT in a nightclub or street at night?” yes, fucking dozens, I’ve been linking them for years but thanks for showing that you really DON’T look at them, confirming that you don’t ACTUALLY do any research…until you need to quote-mine to try to cast shade on Tyler and discredit his teaching the same way you’re doing with Mystery now).

I’ve been attacked ever since I got to the Manosphere and it’s never really bothered me because I know it’s just a lack of understanding what I’m saying or not having enough reference experience to understand it (because a lot of the Manosphere doesn’t actually sarge, they just observe and extrapolate and rely on old memories etc), and I’ve helped enough Blue Pill guys digest the Red Pill to understand the rabid pushback that causes when you challenge their FI-conditioning…but it’s ramped up in the last year when I started bringing up things that the guys here REALLY don’t want to confront or question because it would reveal that they’re still pushing FI-conditioned beliefs and haven’t fully swallowed the Red Pill the way they think they have. And even that wasn’t a big deal, but now that the host of the site himself will be fighting me at every turn and spamming 20 quote-mines a day to try to respond to, I’m just tired and I’m sure after this post I won’t be welcome here anyway lol With me gone, Scray, Hank, etc will end up getting the brunt of what I’ve put up with in every thread over and over because the clique will shift it’s 14yo girl bullying tactics to them without a nice big red YaReally target to shoot at. Best of luck guys to you guys lol

Like Scray says (you’re slaying this whole thread btw I lol’ed my way through the entire thread with each of your logical obliterations of this silly wordplay/semantics/feels game they keep using lol amazing to see your progress compared to when I first threw some advice your way on CH, now that I’ve FULLY BRAINWASHED YOU YOU NAIVE INCEL FOOL lol): boil everything you non-PUAs think about how this stuff works down past the woo-woo feels-based platitudes and fortune cookie wisdom you spout and the distilled result of it will look exactly like what PUA teaches. Just like Blax with finally understanding social pressure when he was 100% adamantly convinced I was full of shit because he doesn’t look past his solipsistic woo-woo feels arguments and as a Natural he can’t ever be wrong about anything (except stuff his ego isn’t directly attached to). 90% of you wouldn’t even disagree with what we’re saying if you stopped and looked at what we were actually saying because half the time we aren’t even disagreeing. PUA is just the boiled down nuts & bolts that everyone discovers when they spend enough time testing shit and pushing the boundaries.

I fully expect this comment to be deleted, edited, quote-mined and misrepresented, whatever. It’s not like anyone trying to descredit PUAs will be too busy being infield tonight to spend their night doing that lol Props to the guys who’ve taken up PUA. Keep at it and use your own discretion about what’s helpful or not helpful and understand that someone can have both useful and not-useful advice and you should test everything to see for yourself what holds up under pressure-testing. Don’t be a LARPer thinking that sitting in your computer chair shadow-boxing and reading theory adequetly prepares you for the MMA octagon. Get out there and take some hits and don’t trust anyone who acts like they don’t take hits or treats you like you’re too stupid/naive to think for yourself and disregards your life experiences and, when they can’t relate to you, treats you like YOU’RE the problem instead of their ability to teach and dismisses you instead of learning to relate to you…cause you’ll get that same treatment from the Blue Pill world. Think for yourselves and do your research to form your own opinions like a rational male. And to anyone who discovers my archive, enjoy the content, but go apply it or it will be worthless in the longrun for you.

And now because it’s Friday night I’m gonna go shower up and get ready to use a bunch of manipulative tricks that don’t work except on worthless bar sluts who mean nothing to me after sex before I cry myself to sleep about how empty my life is compared to the OMGs spending their Fridays making fun of suicidal/incel/value-giving men while I desperately hope no one looks beneath my shallow fake-it-until-I-kill-myself surface to see the depressed suicidal void in my soul that I can only fill by collecting my next BIG PHAT TYLER ROYALTY CHECK from posting that RSD video above. Have fun character assassinating me lol ❤❤

Defending Elaborate Routines

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Fuck it.  It’s my site, I’ll write whatever I want to.

Over at the forum, them boys talking about the pointlessness of routines.

I beg to differ.

I’ll totally agree that a routine like the Cube is overkill for just getting a chick in bed.

But stuff like the Cube, 3 Animals, Strawberry Fields – it’s more than just ego stroking for the player.

Part of the game is giving the chick the “feels”.

More than just making her feel like she wants to fuck, but mad, angry, happy, laughing, she wants to pee, sad, confused, tension relieved, etc

The reason you do this is that if she’s wearing a sheer top, and she catches a draft of hot air, her nipples harden. That causes a biological response in her that leads towards sex.  So she has to self-regulate.

She’s very good at self regulation, when there’s only *one* thing coming at her.  One thing that she can recognize and understand.

Magicians and Comedians like to throw all these things at the audience – because it weakens their defenses.  Getting stimulated from all different directions – girls go out to loud, dark, smoky, dance clubs for THAT REASON.

It’s not just the punchline, it’s the set up, the pledge, it’s the mannerisms, the pauses. They not only deepen the effect of the punchline, but the effect can stay with you for years.

When you strip down routines to the core, a lot of them operate the same way.

But without the salient details, you get sub-optimal results.  Maybe not sub-optimal, you get different results.  It’s ordering the first thing on the menu without turning the page.  It’s dumping a bottle of hot sauce

Let’s say you do the palm reading shit as a joke, and it’s really an excuse for compliance and kino.

Cool, no problem.  She’s attracted, touch barrier is broken, play the comfort game well, handle the uber, and you’re fucking.

Let’s say you do the palm reading stuff seriously, and you do the life line, love line, # of partners….

All shit she’s probably heard before…but say you “notice” something “peculiar”, and then immediately clam up.

You try and change the subject to whether Khloe Kardashian is meant to be single.

“Wait a minute, what did you see…”

Her interest in you, her willingness to comply has shot through the roof.

What was funny ha ha, is no longer a joke.

You’re not going to get that with half-assing the routine.

You’re certainly not going to get that by just doing the “routine” outline.

If you’re just looking for some fun that night, you don’t need all the technique and nuance.

But the whole point of 7 hours, elaborate routines, feather boas was not just to put your dick in a chick.

It was to capture her.

Even on the PUA boards that have guys that were there to see all of this happen – they don’t think like this anymore.

It’s all about minimum effective doses, the least game possible, EFFICIENCY, minimalism, low to no effort.

To be honest, it’s weird to me that game has devolved.   It should have evolved.  It should have gotten more ornate, more baroque.

But maybe that’s why the peacock isn’t running the planet.  All those details are no match for efficient killers.

To switch gears with a metaphor

I’m sure you’ve heard the phrase, “Information wants to be free” – which is used as a justification for piracy.  This music can’t be contained by your stupid copyright laws

But it was taken from this statement.

“It seems like there’s a couple of interesting paradoxes we’re working with here. That’s why I’m especially interested in what Bob Wallace has done with PC-WRITE and what Andrew Flugelman did before that with PC-TALK. On the one hand information wants to be expensive, because it’s so valuable. The right information in the right place just changes your life. On the other hand, information wants to be free, because the cost of getting it out is getting lower and lower all the time.

How the phrase is used now, is a shortened and entirely different way than it was used before.   They don’t mean the same things.

The meme is a de-evolution of the original.  It’s not even clear that people would understand this debate about information in 2016.

Stripping down old school pua/nlp/speed seduction/magician/comedian game into the moving parts – basically doesn’t get at what is possible.

What if you were thinking deeply about your game – and any chick you banged – you wanted her to bang you strictly for the sex.

Not just be her Fuck Buddy – but she’s penciling you in her calendar, dieting, exercising, doing kegels, working on her gag reflex at work – because she’s now approaching having sex with you like it was some grand undertaking.   Where she’s putting off important shit, because she’s got to finish working on her Wonder Woman costume for your planned activities on Friday night.

Or you when you meet her, you have you, her, and her girlfriend doing triple kisses  – and that lights a fire in her mind.  And then you go into some personality quiz about the “sexual fluidity”.

It’s not even really about the routines.  It’s about thinking about possibilities, and making them into realities.

-Archie

 

 

Connecting the Short Game to the Long Game

The scenario was that a young dude moved in with a chick, and shortly thereafter the chick started acting up.  But he didn’t really have the funds to move out.

Ouch.

So the way the conversation evolved was basically that a guy needed to have his own affairs straight – and that if there was going to be any living together, it would be at is place, on his terms.

For guys that are new to this, maybe they’ve figured out the short game – got a great Tinder – Instagram for social proof and pre-selection, which then ramps up both attraction and trust during the first meet – making the “Hey come check out my World of Warcraft set up at my house” pretty easy.

The way this works is that you basically piqued her interest, engaged with her, and then you keep making her invest in you, until she bangs.  And the bang is more investment.

The young player figured  out the short game.  Once he sees the structure, all the permutations of game just become obvious.  His SMV is bullshit, because he makes the girl invest.  His ability to make her invest is his VALUE, because she invests in NO ONE.

So young player goes from a few dates here and there, to more than Poon Tang Clan than you can handle.

He thinks he knows their behavior, because you’ve been able to master that behavior in a dating context.

So the somewhat wise player does recognize that when he has a chick on his home turf, he has advantages.  When it comes to the short game, a chick’s rottweiler isn’t going to jump in the bed – because he’s at his place not at hers.

So the journeyman player doesn’t make this mistake of moving in with a chick.

So clearly the answer this issue is to have her move in to yours.

Well that’s basically the story of human civilization.

He doesn’t think chicks know how to turn his place into hers.

*opens curtains*

*brings some incense*

Suddenly that Japanese Sword Collection gets moved out of the living room….

Before he knows it, the mini skirt crew is watching Love and Hip Hop Scottsdale on his flat screen, heels up on his leather couch.   On some, “Honey can you bring me a drink…”

How’d he get here?

Young Player
   She must come to you and let you take care of her.

Veteran Player
She must come to you and you *let* her take care of *you*.

The veteran player knows that even if he has “home turf advantage”, a chick will organize and clean all that stuff away.  Suddenly your clear bathroom sink is full of beauty products – as she turns 6.5 visage into the 8 that you pulled from the Meet Up Group. (Cringe all you want, the perfect 10 that you pulled that stays a perfect 10 will eventually bore you before she gets old.  Growing used to a woman’s beauty is a topic for another time)

So the real value of a chick to you is her behavior.  And whether that behavior subtracts or supports YOUR mission.   Even if your only mission is to be #1 Dad – does she bolster your efforts or undermine you?

Thus, you can’t have a situation where she comes to live with you and you take care of her.   That violates how you pulled her.

A woman must be capable of taking care of herself.

A woman worth living with has to be self sufficient. If I let one of these 23 year olds live with me, all they do is ask me to solve their problems.

When I went from Papi to Daddy to Dad, I got role confusion on her part. They got to be irresponsible. Before long, they want girls night out and return to that single life.

Scenario –  She putting on makeup and it’s not for you…da fuck?

Question – How’d I get here? I had six chicks in rotation

Answer –     “Whatever issue comes up, Archie will fix it”

I did these chicks a disservice to be honest, stunted their growth as adults.

A woman’s eventual role is going to be caretaking.  But to do so, she has to be able to handle her own stuff and get used to being an adult.

Let that broad make you lasagna, so she skills up, invests in you, invests in herself.  That’s what got you the bang, that’s how it continues to work.

I don’t know if my current approach will get you to death do us part, but I tell you for sure that taking care of a broad won’t get you there.

She will not appreciate what you bring into her life when you’re basically supporting her antics and behavior. I done helped chicks get jobs, get through school, get through tough emotional times, change careers, start businesses, meet a whole new social circle – them broads ain’t sent your boy as much as a fruit basket.

If I had known then what I know now. There wasn’t a West Indian Archie in the old days. It was guys just getting their first piece of pussy and fucks on the regular. I still see some of that mentality now, but some of those very bitter men found the game and have been telling their stories.

Some players have tried to technique their way out of these issues, but it comes back to the same psychology that got you the pull.

Am I reacting to her? No pussy, all problems
Or
Is she reacting to me? All pussy, no problems

Part of the reason meth dealer biker guy can have stripper pussy on lock is because she’s always trying to fix his life. He keeps her mentally engaged with his drama, not the reverse.  She keeps putting so much into the relationship, and he puts in 1/10th.   But it’s not because he’s playing a game.  Not because he’s using dread or competition anxiety.  Mr. Son of Anarchy has his own mission.  The chick can only be around him, if she supports that mission.   The fact that she wants to turn his attention away from that – is just her job.

Now you don’t ignore a chick. She’ll pour boiling water on you.

So let’s put it together.

  1. You pull a girl based on her reacting to you. (She reacts to you often because your frame is strong and you’re engaging her, but not reacting to her)
  2. You make nice with the Bible Reading.
  3. Now she becomes a person that might get on your team.
  4. She rises through the ranks, showing you not only her behavior towards you, but her behavior towards other.
  5. When she starts angling for keys to the crib, trying to basically lock you down – you have to define what you’re getting into and put a price on your freedom.
  6. If you want to keep her around, she needs to want to stay around.  She’ll want to do that, if she invests. She won’t invest in you, if you’re always investing in her.

When you get this far, hit me up in the comments section.

-Archie

A Change Gone Come

In light of recent events, this blog will definitely shift focus.  I’m not going away from the game, far from it.  A change in regime means I actually need to fully invest in all forms of game.

I primarily talk about the following

  • The Player’s Mindset
  • The Lady’s Mindset
  • Social Context
  • One on One Game
  • Group Game
  • Night Game
  • Cold Approach
  • LTR Management

What I neglect, because it’s not my area of expertise or general experience

  • Social Circle Game – specifically meeting people and building a social circle
  • Raw Day Game – that insane run up on a chick game, or hang out in a coffee shop and hit on patrons.
  • Lifestyle “Game” – the quotes should tip you off, I don’t put much stock in lifestyle as “game”.  At least not the rich playboy type of game that people think of.
  • Internet Game – Using marketing techniques and a funnel to get dates, and then using one on one game during the date to build trust.
  • Game outside of Romantic Contexts – We’ll get into this, as I plan on breaking down historical leaders.  There’s an interplay between you making a girl feel the roller coaster – and everyone else watching.  The chick in the sideline who’s rolling her eyes at you, changes her tune when some other girls really start to feel you.  Basically you don’t convince the skeptic – you find the true believers – and they convince your skeptic through sexual preselection and social proof.
  • World Game

It’s this last one that I’ve been attempting to get a handle on this year.  But my day time commitments as a Intellect-For-Hire have kept me out of the World Game like I need to be.

So one of the homies asked me on the forum about how to break out for the girls that are kinda cute (he calls them 6’s) and into the 7’s and above.

Well you know just on that scenario, there’s a whole lot of things to break down…If he were talking about the North American context, and by extension the Anglosphere.   You can extend a lot of Game developed in Canada, LA, DC, Vegas, and NYC to the Australia, New Zealand, England, et cetera – because all the cultures basically draw from the same well in terms of “romance”.   There’s a huge cultural component of game that most American players deal with.

Now if you’ve been doing this as long as I have, and have stayed in touch with the “community” more or less – one of the things that everyone has noticed was that travel makes  your game better.

Having to connect with a woman who doesn’t speak your tongue or know to get you the Kola Champagne and not the Pineapple Soda is a challenge that most guys don’t really know how to handle.

Indeed, if you read the traveling players, a lot of them are getting over on 2 things

  • Exotic Factor
  • Western (i.e. rich) factor

Very brute force game.  And I prefer finesse.  But finesse in American game depends on you understanding social context, social cues, and how things are done.  What rules can be broken, must be followed, and can be done away with.

What World Game can teach you

  • These broads are mostly the same.  They all want everything, even if everything isn’t good for them.
  • Overall female behavioral cues

It’s this second one that makes your game better at home.  This latest generation of international players, have the money to go abroad, bang chicks with inelegant approaches, and then they have to come home and deal with culturally savvy chicks who see that these men aren’t even trying to learn the ropes.    The players of old came back from Mongolia with much better eye contact, noticing more of when a chick was responding by body language, how to close distance, and how to really build trust at the most basic level.

Whatever inelegant game the “old school pua’s” had in a foreign context, they learned to strip down and strip out cultural assumptions and get to the core.

Why is this important?  Why were they able to?  What does night game have to do with this?

Night game comes in 2 basic flavors.  Mostly Verbal and Mostly-Non-Verbal.  If you’re at a bar, even a loud bar, you can shout your way into a good situation.  If you’re at a concert or a mega-night club, the entire club is designed to overwhelm your senses.   You’re supposed to embrace the madness.  It’s essentially an orgy/a mob/a controlled riot.

That sort of thing is where good old American Night Club game intersects with World Game.

Back to other posts – this game “thingy” is about giving her feels.  And that’s true in every context.  What World Game can teach a player is how to focus on the sub-communications and the non-verbal game to give the girls feels.   And World Game has to be done in the context outside of being overwhelmed.

So that means my efforts to learn portable skills, which I got some decent mileage out of this year – go to the front burner.

It’s time to get out there.

-Archie

 

Scared Chick wants to meet me at a coffee shop

This was on the forum.   Here’s my expanded answer

Bumble bitch. Messages me. We chit chat. I ask for #. She says not till we meet because stalker in her past or some shit. I say ok. (first mistake no doubt).

So I continue to talk to her over the stupid app. Seems like playing into her frame. I say we should meet. She agrees. She then says coffee….which i absolutely hate for a date. But i agree because this bitch is hot.

So far I’ve been playing by her rules, again which I hate. Going to meet later today and need input on how to rapidly reset the frame so that I’ll be the one calling the shots if we ever meet again.

My take on the advice so far

1) Just Do Your Thing
– summed up as “it’s not an issue”
– not particularly practical or helpul

2) Lack of Frame
Basically you should just force the issue.

The problem with forcing the frame is that she hasn’t accepted it.
Trying to smash her into your world – ESPECIALLY A CHICK YOU JUST “MET” ONLINE – is a gamble and doesn’t address the problems in this scenario

3) Agree to her terms

Agree to her and then extend the date the way you see fit.

Somebody just put on their first pair of Gators!

Probably the best answer that handles some of the problems, even if it only frames this as a logistical problem.

[Ed. Hint Hint, it’s more than that that.]

The reason why guys don’t think of this answer is because

THAT BITCH BETTER DO WHAT THE FUCK I’M TELLING HER,
I’M THE MAN
BITCH BETTA RECOGNIZE…

Too much EGO leads to missing this solution.

This is not understanding your own psychology, or male psychology.

4) Agree to her terms/tour the town style date + “stop in” at your place

Takes the decent work around of #3, but then tries to sneak in some shit that she actually should expect, and would start flashing alarms.

5) Tease the chick about her situation but sandwich it with jokes

Teasing builds attraction by breaking rapport.

Is it possible that a few text messages can shoot your stock so high, change her mood and change her mind – Maybe. Anything is possible.
I write and persuade people for a living, so it could be in the cards…

6) Agree, Get Frame, Lead & don’t take her literally

Super strong answer. It’s like a better illustration of #3.

Other options that I wrote down at work, but didn’t actually make an appearance

7) FUCK THIS BITCH, SILENCE
8) Fuck you bitch, here’s why, BLOCK

Surprised there was no “take the Alpha high road” answers, which is what I expected to see a lot of.

What the veteran player sees?

In my view, the game is all about psychology
– Knowing your own – Why does her doing this make me so mad?
– Knowing what other guys do – What do other guys typically do i n
– Knowing what girls typically do – And this chick is not doing what they typically do
– Knowing what your particular chick is doing and how it fits into her particular psychology – This chick had a bad experience.  Baggage to deal with

What’s really going on in this scenario?

Let’s really break it down.

It’s a meet stemming from online
– In person, at a night club, you wouldn’t be going through this
– In the day time, she’d be able to give you a smell test and figure out if you’re bad news
– Social Circle would be ideal for her – because she can vet you through other sources. You just being in the same circle is almost enough.

So from jump, what kind of problem do you have?

Do you have a sex problem? No.
Do you have an attraction problem? No.
Do you have logistical issues? No

What you have is an issue of basic trust.

So this is what that Netflix and Chill Post #2 was about, my post in the player’s lounge about rapid trust building, and the thread about a girl wanting to google your name.

Chicks that act like this do not have trust. (This will be important, follow)

What about attraction?

Glad you asked.
– This is an online meet at first – so a girl that responds well, means that you at least have a decent social profile. Give yourself a +1
– The fact that this was Bumble – which is girls choose – means that you definitely have a face/body/style that she’s looking for.

What about your text game?

– I didn’t read anything about it. But I’m just going to assume you’re the typical RVF guy, and you only text logistics, thus your text game is weak.

MESSAGE.

Write a shit load more. Write as much as I do, and your text game will become a strength and not a weakness. Not something that you can fuck up. Something that you can use so that you can fuck.

What about your online game?
– Again, this is an online pull, and I don’t see where you used any thing aside from your Bumble profile to pull this chick.

Did you like your awesome webpage of amazing travels, yachts, foods, chicks, memes, and puppies?

I’m guessing not. But if you have group shots of you with people, some of which are attractive girls, then that’s a way to show social proof, pre-selection, which helps with attraction. And also can convey that other bitches are SAFE around you.

Right off the bat, you’re not using tools that are available to you.

That’s neither her nor there.

This, so far, has been all about you.

What about her?

This broad told you she has a stalker.
Two implications

1) Really bitch?
You have a stalker?
Like is he liking all your shit on Instagram?
He’s a stalker now?
Are you really that fine?
What the fuck are you doing on Bumble then?

An actually fine bitch has high quality offers IN REAL FUCKING LIFE.

2) Oh and you think *I’m* going to be a stalker?

That’s awfully presumptuous. Like I ain’t pumped and dumped finer bitches than you that gave me less of a hassle.

That’s whatever though.

In terms of game, what is she communicating to you?

She has enough attraction to come see you, but she does not TRUST you, or any man.

So that’s the real problem with this scenario.

She is telling you that she needs to build trust.

What happens when you build trust, comfort, and rapport AT A COFFEE SHOP?

You become her friend.
Her friends that are boys don’t fuck her.

She’s setting you up to fail.

She wants you to build trust first, not realizing her own psychology. MESSAGE.

So I just said you had attraction. This is perfectly in line with the sequence…right?

Let’s take a step back.

Before you can put P into V, you need 3 things.
– Attraction
– Trust
– Location

Classically, you build attraction first, and you build trust afterwards. And it all culminates at the final location.

But it’s better to think of Attraction, Trust, and Location as slider knobs on a studio mixer. You keep adjusting the sliders to get the right sound, no distortion.

game-mixer
To get the date, let’s say you need an attraction level of 2 and a comfort level of 2. (please you inboxing newbs, don’t get pedantic about the #’s shit. IT’S A METAPHOR not an EQUATION)

– 2 on attraction – she can be seen in public with you
– 2 on trust – you’re not going to kill her
– 0 on logistics (unless you can sneak her into the bathroom for a quick bang)

As the date progresses
– Attraction moves up to 5-6 – she’s hanging on to your every word, eating out of your hand, going along with role plays, she’s adopted your frame. She’s in to you.

– Trust moves up to 5-6 – she’s very cool with you moving her around, touching her non-sexually. You aren’t doing weird shit. If you grab for her hand, she gives it. But when she pulls away, you’re w/o reaction. No neediness, no bad reactions. She doesn’t need to be careful around you.

– Logistics are at a 3 (you’ve changed venues, and you could engage in some PDA – though a smart player wouldn’t)

As you get closer to the end of the date
– attraction level hits 10
– the trust is about an 8
– logistics are at 8-10 as well. So that’s the walk to your car, in your car, the walk up to your place, in your living room, with 10 being her on the bed naked in your bed.

I don’t want to get too deep into this metaphor, but there’s a tension between all 3. When one goes up, the others go down, or sideways.

Most notably, When she really wants to fuck attraction wise, and when she’s in the place where she can fuck – That trust level isn’t a steady riser from 8 to 10. That 8 might just sit there for a long ass time, so long that attraction (the dopamine and other chemicals coursing through her brain start to subside)

There is something about being so turned on, and being in a place where shit can go down where her brain is like “YO, WE’RE NOT SURE ABOUT THIS”

And that’s where the player really shines. It’s the most important part of the short game – and it happens WAY BEFORE you get her back home.

The game is played in comfort.
Is she comfortable with you, around you, having you put your P into her V.

The game is about TRUST.

Where the bangs fail to happen, is that you can’t get that trust level to 10.

So that’s LMR in a nutshell. You’ve got attraction and a place to bang, but not enough trust. She trusted you enough to come home – but there’s that final hurdle of trust that she just can’t jump. And it’s usually something that happened WELL BEFORE you got her back to your spot.

And if you have to pull out an LMR buster, the way that typically works is you withdraw attraction, and she has to buy into your frame. This is her giving in, as opposed to her tearing your clothes off, or enthusiastically wanting her to fuck you. I don’t want to get deep into the LMR discussion either.

I bring this up because if you take her on a “tour of the city” style date – it builds trust – each place you go – each person you talk to – builds TRUST.

The walking date also provides a “plot” to your date. (Everyone thinks in narratives. Every body is a star in their own movie)

Here the chick has you at 2/2/0 with this coffee date

To get the P into V, you need the trust to get to 10….

Here the logic is inverted.

She wants trust NOW. Not when she’s more attracted, not when she’s in a place where she can be “free”.

The veteran knows that her thinking brain, the mammal brain, wants this thing that her reptilian brain (the ‘gina) does not want.

We can talk about attraction theory if you want – but as any dude here can tell you – getting a chick to trust you to the level she seems to want – will more likely than not dry up the pussy.

What usually makes it wet is NOVELTY (most attraction technique is showing her novelty, not letting her get it when she wants it, putting her in a validation cycle, and adopting your frame and exchanging pussy and everything else for a the novelty of being in your life).

Novelty is the enemy of Security.
Novelty is the enemy of Trust.

Trust is usually known as comfort and rapport.
Attraction material, the better stuff in my view, is about BREAKING rapport.

Weak dudes seek rapport.  Players break rapport.

Players only seek rapport, after she INVESTS heavily.

So to get comfort, to get rapport, to get trust – you need to give her what she asked for.

And if a chick knows basically what to expect, and you meet her expectations – she’ll have the trust she needs.

She just won’t have the attraction.
Bitch…

Bitches secretly love this shit, even if they aren’t conscious of it.
From a male p.o.v, most broads are just problems for you to figure out, and
they love to make it has hard as possible.

So the walk around date is an option, especially if you come at it from the perspective that I NEED TO BUILD TRUST.
– paying for coffee
– having a plan to do something to afterwards
– interacting with customers, shop keepers, baristas – showing you’re social and normal
– guiding her through a crowd
– being decisive
– taking her to new places, and nothing bad happens
– taking her to new places, and you deal well with strangers
– taking her to new places, where people, girls esp, know you
– touching her, and then pulling back.
– showing some vulnerability, and getting her to volunteer it.

So you do the walkabout – with a purpose to get at the chick’s mind.

That’s the 1st strategy. She wants coffee shop, you pick one, and have an itinerary in line. The intermediate guy doesn’t just pick a centrally located coffee shop. The fail safe coffee shop is that if she flakes, you’ve got places to go.

The other options are more out of the box, advanced in nature.  But they get at the main issue she has.   She can’t really trust herself to make decisions.  I’ve touched on this with the “Girl wants to bring a dog, or girl has a dog” type posts.  Where the girl outsources her decision making to the dog.

A) Go to her fave coffee shop – charm the fuck out of everyone there. And have a plan.

B) Make her invite a friend – and then nip the trust thing in the bud – and charm both of them.

These options actually do what I would call a trust transference, a social safety blanket.  But they use the trust factors of TRUSTED third parties to reinforce that she should trust you.  Plus you get the added benefit of vetting her friend/friends to see if this is the type of chick you can stick your dick into, and whether she has hot friends that you can fuck on the low read The Bible with.

-Archie

Pink Elephants

Do you understand how this joke works?

There are a few players

  • The Elephant
  • The Cops who don’t want to see the elephant, and won’t let you get out of your ticket
  • The Victim
  • The Audience

So the crew/cops pull over the victim.  The victim thinks to herself that I must have done something wrong, or I haven’t done anything wrong.  The cop acts like a cop.

And then this pink elephant with yellow spots walks in the background.

Predictably, the victim tries to redirect the cop’s attention, but the cop being a cop is not falling for it.  When the cop finally does, the elephant is nowhere to be seen – thus proving that the cop was right not to believe the victim.

This cycles a few times, and the audience is the only one in on the joke.  The audience sees the humor, the exasperation, and frustration.

So the humor is really for the viewing audience, why do they then show the audience the shot of the victim seeing the camera?

Clearly when the victim sees the camera, there’s a huge sigh of relief that they experience – but the tension is also relieved with the viewing audience.

This is the sort of thing I think about when it comes to game.  How can I use these sort of social rules to make emotional impact on the girl.

At the theory level, this involves two sets, with your target girl being the audience.   You run your flim flam on some cute chick.  She’s tense, she’s bouncing around, and then you relieve the tension.  Your target sees this, and her own tension is relieved.

So there’s really not much more to it – and this is just coming at Group Theory/Pawn Theory from another angle.

-Archie

 

Am I Getting Anywhere?

Q: Archie – I thought this chick was feeling me, but when I ask for the meet, she says, “I’ll let you know”

A. If a chick hits you with the “I’ll let you know” that’s a “no” not a “know”

[Ed. This video has nothing to do with the topic, I just find it comical]

Overall, dissecting the problem is that to get to that point of “I’ll let you know” – you had to spark some initial interest/attraction and then lose it.

If
1) the chick opened,
2) and you ran your material/showed value
3) and you she wanted to hear more,
4) and to get more from you, you made her invest

She’s on. This ain’t rocket science. As much as guys want to overcomplicate things, this is basically how all the styles work.

– Pretty boy steps up, yammers – the value is his prettiness. She wants more, he makes her invest.

– Meathead steps up, yammers, the value is in the muscles, to bang her, he makes her invest.

– Player steps up, yammers, the value is in how he is making her feel in the moment. To bang her, he makes her invest.

So it’s guys getting weak opens (like environmental openers that are “clever” but don’t actually push a girl’s emotional buttons), and then assuming the rest.

I can’t assume sexual/physical attraction. She might purse her lips, or bring her legs together, or give off some sort of biological tell – but she might need to pee. Her twirling her hair might be interest, might be what she does when she’s bored.

Yet, getting her to play along, and to further invest is something I can see, verify, and keep on doing.

They get to the end where they go for the #/kiss/instadate/bang – and suddenly the girl’s not interested.

There’s nothing sudden about it.
The player didn’t show her what she wanted to see/hear.
But because chicks get punched in the face for being blunt, she was cordial the whole time.

I used to run into this shit all the time. Then I realized I needed to really push the emotions harder. The good pulls I had, the chick was REALLY feeling what I had to say. But I was focusing on the material, not so much the [b]depth of the emotional reaction[/b]. That’s the roller coaster that we keep talking about.

So to focus on that, if I had a chick giggling, i’d hammer on that a minute or two then switch gears. She’s laughing, now she’s defending herself for laughing too much. Switch, switch, switch – whatever she thought initially, however she felt – I’ve changed her mood and have now changed her mind. This is what good customer service reps do. It’s not that hard to adapt to game.

I don’t want a giggle, I want her sides to hurt when she laughs at my shit. Whatever emotion I think is possible, I want it to be on 10, not 0.5.

And people get sold TV’s, newspaper subscriptions, loan products, life insurance, and switch electric companies when they go to the grocery store. You go into Wal-Mart for some oil filters and end up picking up shit on the way. It’s not an accident.

People’s ability to control their urges is not that strong. The real problem is that they don’t have the money to buy everything they want.

-Archie

Double Bind

Q. Do your parents know that you’re a Vegan?

A. No… wait yes…wait I’m not a Vegan…

The Double Bind, something that lots of debate people to trap people into statements.   Now if you’re debating, it’s a dirty trick. But if you’re flirting, its fun for the girl.

Rather than bore a chick with your bragging or humble bragging, invite her to play using a double bind.

How to set it up

1) Come in with the opener,
2) She doesn’t hear you
3) You turn the topic of conversation away from what you had in mind, and on to her in playful manner
– it’s an accusation that she has to defend herself against
– it’s a cold read
– it’s a tease
– it’s a flirt

IT’S INTERESTING TO HER.

And not in an intellectual way.  She probably has enough boring conversations at the job.   So focus on flirting and having fun.  Giving her something to play with.  That’s what I go for, and what I think you should go for.   Plus this is something you can do during night game, day game, online game, and social circle game.   It’s sexy without touching on sex.

4) She’s going to keep playing this game where she’s the center of the discussion.

And that’s where you want it to be

But Archie, I just reached the top of Mt. Everest

She doesn’t care.  She doesn’t care about that stuff, because she doesn’t care about you.  You know what she cares about? HER

Chances are that whatever you were going to say initially isn’t going to give you this sort of reaction that flirting will, and a double bind is a good little conversational piece to keep in your back pocket.

Remember, often times you need to go off of your “script” – and focus on the here and now of the conversation.

That means the conversation should focus on
– her
– you and her

You want the girl to be mentally engaged and talking to you – so even if you had this killer story or joke planned, there’s no real point in going back to what you were saying until you get her interested in you.

All that cool bragging stuff that you want to lead with, You need to let that go.

But now that she is chatting – you have to move the ball forward.

So you throw a double bind at her, and now she’s playing with you.

This is where you’re now playing the game.

-Archie

Compliments and Bar Openers

Andy asked this question

I was searching for ‘opener’ info and saw some of your posts on rooshv forum. There was one thread where I think you advised to never open with any sort of compliment – even one not directed at her beauty, but at maybe an item of clothing or something. ”Hey, I like your trainers!” sort of thing.

Can you confirm that this is ‘bad’ practice? Lots of people do this on infield clips I see.

How would you open a girl in a bar – say 11pm in a small bar in a local town?

On Compliments

1) Compliment openers are not for guys new to the game.
a) That’s what regular guys do
b) You don’t want to do what regular guys do
c) If a girl doesn’t value your opinion, then it’s more of an annoyance
d) Even if it starts the conversation – it doesn’t really show much personality on your part – and no personality = no value.  So on the shot clock, you’ve wasted valuable seconds.

There are good ways to do compliment openers – but it’s only after you get used to talking to girls, and hitting the emotional high notes and craziness that they like.
I could do it, but a guy new to the game probably couldn’t.

West Indians use compliments to open all the time – but they’re not earnest compliments.

Dread – “Gyal yuh suh sweet dat di mango knock yuh door fi sugar”

In English – “Girl you’re so sweet that the mango knocks on your door for sugar.  ”

The compliment is so ridiculous and over the top, and delivered with a smile – that the point of the compliment is not the content themselves – but the preposterous nature.

It shows creativity and personality, much more than tells the girl that she’s sweet.

It makes a chick laugh. And when you make someone laugh, that’s them falling in to your frame.  You doing stuff to control their moods and emotions.

An example from General Degree

Square guys, newbs – they’ll say,

“Your eyes are so beautiful. “

That’s an earnest compliment – and from some stranger – it means nothing.

“Nice shoes”  – if she’s wearing heels, and they’re sexy – it’s not really giving her anything to work with, to react from.

Replace it with, “I know exactly what you want right now” – “A nice pair of comfy bunny rabbit slippers with the ears..”

2) Small Bar in a Local Town

Keep in mind this West Indian Archie – a black guy writing about game for Black, Latino, Indian, Asian, and Middle Eastern guys – I (we) have to be mindful in Small Town America.

Some of my majority-American readers would not have to be mindful, and could come in hard and direct and sexual from the very beginning.

In general,
– I’d approach from the side
– I’d be loud
– Turn to her and say

“You look like a person/lady/woman who….” <-cold read works better than environmental openers because she might have missed whatever you’re noticing

– Give it a few seconds
– If she reacts positive/negative or does nothing – follow it up with whatever I started

Now I talk a lot in general, I can improvise on the spot.  You might not have those skills yet.  So think about something that happened to you today.
Turn it into an opener by 1) cold read to open, 2) follow up with a story that gives her a chance to give her input

I’m writing this a few days after the 1st big Clinton Trump debate, so I might go with a current event.

“Did you hear Donald Trump sniffing…You think he’s on coke? That’s what they’re saying online”

….after the attention get, after the cold read, after the story…you will hit the social hook point (RSD Julien calls it that) where she’s cool to chat.
Then you need to push for the sexual hook point – where she actively wants to talk to you – and not just to shoot the shit.
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The foundation of my game, is that I’m an interesting dude that people like to talk to.
So if that’s what you’re aiming for, keep reading my stuff.

If you’re more of a hard charging alpha, “my way or the highway”, I can’t tell you how to do that successfully all the time.

-Archie