HVM Revisited Part 2

Part 1 – we addressed the paper tiger issue.

If you’re a fan of RSD, Tyler, Owen, Natural Game, and low key Milton Erickson, Bandler and Grinder, and Tony Robbins (MESSAGE!) – A lot of the rest of the video (now taken down as of 1/2/24)…..but I have the transcript.

Tyler – I’m going to be talking about a lot of very wacky and bizarre off-the-wall concepts… for women this dumb gold jacket is worth a lot more than say a diamond bracelet or a Rolex watch ….I’m going to explain to you also why being an idiot … is actually more powerful than being what most people these days would call a high value guy.

This is both an obvious concept to vets, and a weird concept to noobs.

To echo what I said yesterday, the things that men want/that society rewards aren’t the same things that women want and reward.

Indeed, what a lot of us have found, is that the things that men look down on/society punishes – women want and reward.

This is the classic Roissy post where some area gets hit by a massive flood.  The camera shows men dutifully working to salvage and rebuild…and then some jackass comes through the flood on a jet ski.

There’s a ton of Black Pill stuff along these lines, but all of the rule breaking, bad-boy, d-boy, criminal, actual serial killers.

Let’s focus on the transcript.

the things that men think women like are not necessarily the things that women actually respond to

Tyler mentions wearing a gold jacket over wearing an actual Rolex.  A string of pearls versus a diamond necklace. (I don’t know about that one..)

Wearing things that catch her eye get better results than wearing things that will catch a man’s eye.   A lot of high dollar and very sought after cars are usually trumped by the guy on a motorcycle.

Looking “high status”/”high value” is something that’s different for a man, versus a woman.

For the prime market – not the mature women.

  • Lil Baby beats Barack.
  • Timothy Chalamee beats Timothy Oliphant

With these things in mind, the game of old, with its peacocking, high energy routines, comedy, intrigue, mystery – these are all modalities that appeal to women.  Poorly calibrated this can turn a man into a dancing monkey, into “entertainment”, but properly calibrated a taste of novelty entices the audience, but to get more they have to cooperate.

That’s all well and good.  Heard it all before (c) Sunshine Anderson.

What are the new insights in this video?

Tyler starts to talk about the LA guys that crush it. That are better than him, and better than anyone on YouTube/”in the community”.

…I know here and the guys who have the best results with dating and I can tell you that their results are outside so these would typically be guys that have um 30 girlfriends at once um go home with somebody different every night and is pretty much across the board famous pop stars models creme de creme Instagram models best girls in the club and there’s one commonality that these guys all have and you want what it is they’re all idiots, straight up

Nothing groundbreaking here.  The first question is “how”?

At this point Tyler has thoroughly stepped away from the looks, muscles and money paradigm.  And we’ve known from the very beginning that “intelligence” and wisdom are no goes when it comes to short term relationships with the prime market.

So how is idiocy an aphrodisiac?

    1. They’re idiots who don’t make sense but here’s the other one
    2. They pump their state while collapsing the criteria to have value

okay they pump their state while collapsing the criteria to have value so here’s the difference between them and you. You believe that you have to build value for yourself to get in the zone  

Per Tyler, “we” (aka the average rookie trying to get better) believe that we need money, that we need muscles, that we need fame/power/status, a blue check mark and a million instagram followers – which is what the modern PUA aka Red Pill movement pushes.  Which is also in line with what society tells us what to do.

Okay, yeah, blah blah blah, value/state whatevs…

What’s hidden in the Tyler/RSD analysis is this concept of “state pump”.

Back in the day, if you’d been toiling away at HTML (we’re talking about the start of the world wide web), you were probably not in a talkative mood, much less that infectious energy you get when you’re around people that you want to talk to.  That type of energy is necessary to talk to random strangers and cute girls in the night life.

To get to this energy, to get to “state”, you needed to get past that initial friction of talking to strangers.

So traditionally this was Richard Gere in The Gigolo, getting ready to go out, putting together his outfit, putting on cologne, listening to some good music.  The next part of getting into state are those first conversations, to warm up the tongue and the social muscles.

As a guy that’s been doing this for a long time, the solo prep is easy.

1) Approach Anxiety plus 2) not being in state are what stops most newbs from making their first approach.

And if there are longer term self image issues or underlying mental traumas AND social programming – it’s very hard to start.

If you’ve been watching and learning from Tyler for as long as I have, you know that from the BluePrint Decoded days, Tyler’s been searching for a way to be “in state” all of the time.

From my understanding, that doesn’t mean talkative and talking to people all of the time.  That would not be possible, and in many situations, not socially calibrated. (Bro, *sips Kool-Aid*, social calibration is a limiting belief!)

In State all of the Time seems to be the ideal.

And realization of that ideal is “The Idiot”.

The “idiot” – has little to no approach anxiety, has no need to build himself up, because he already think he’s the ish.  He can’t contemplate even the concept of value.  He’s “in his own reality”.

  • YaReally talked about this.
  • Roissy called this delusional confidence – emphasis on delusional.  (or was it irrational confidence)
  • He who shall not be named talked about this, but I’ve already said too much.
  • RSD Julien had a video/lecture – “You are enough”

I think the concept is fairly understandable by the reader.

As me and the homie Perp have often discussed, how does a thinking man get to be like this?

As a Man Thinketh…but if this requires no thinking….

TBC…

2 thoughts on “HVM Revisited Part 2”

  1. >To get to this energy, to get to “state”, you needed to get past that initial friction of talking to strangers.

    Eh, that’s one way of doing it but it’s not the best way, like at all. Guys like Tyler, Yareally, Roissy, etc. are all old school guys who are just observing “naturals” and trying to figure out what makes them so attractive to women and trying to replicate their results. Yareally was basically a fraud, his text game was horrific, his irl game consisted of going up to girls and telling them that he was a virgin and that he wanted fuck them, he apparently could pull good looking girls from tinder, etc. I care as much for his breakdown of “game” about as much as I care about yours or roissy’s or tyler’s, as in not much at all.

    You’ll never figure out what makes these “idiots” so good with women by just looking at them and observing their behavior, what’s going on is much harder to quantify. It’s the equivalent to curing scurvy with a magnifying glass, and that shit ain’t happening.

    If you want at least a hint as to what’s going on here, it’s 100% a neurotransmitter phenomenon. That classic state of the “alpha male” hierarchy involves an incredible increased circulation of very specific neurotransmitters. That leads to what pua’s might think of as “state”. The naturals all have it, but the pua’s don’t. It’s true for monkeys and it’s true for humans, how the “thinking man” gets to be like this is exactly how the thinking man has gamed every system thus far, first through understanding and scientific inquiry, then with creative enterprise with the knowledge of the rules in that system. Not by pretending to know things that he does not, or lying to your audience that you can replicate results that you cannot, or fraudulently claiming to have answers for monetary gain.

    That’s my word on this. You don’t have enough rupees in your treasure chest to pay me to teach you the rest. Figure it out on your own guys, or don’t, idgaf. But you’ll never get to being like these “idiots” by trying to simply ape their behavior.

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