Paying for Box

The Players

Fresh and Fit 

      • Fresh is the rich guy that has a stuttering problem.  I’ve featured some of his videos before.  (From Barbados)
      • Fit is the fitness guy, who’s got a lot of energy (Sudanese)

Aba and Preach

      • Aba and Preach are both in Canada, and they’re both comedians.
      • Aba is Ethiopian.
      • Preach is Haitian.

The Time line

      • On one of their podcasts, Fresh and Fit accuse Aba (of Aba and Preach fame) of being “Beta”.  [I’ll get back to this]
      • To discuss it, A&P appear on F/F.
      • The discussion then turns to whether or not prostitution should be legal.
      • The overall idea is that when you pay for the box, the chick doesn’t bring her genuine desire. Rollo Gets into it here.  [My only argument against validational sex – is that women are GREAT liars. –  See the crying challenge.
      • Fresh talks about his game.
        • Like all game, all pick up, saying the stuff out loud = cringe.  The only time the actual words about pick up are not cringe, are when some attractive woman validates it.
      • Preach reacts to his game and calls him out on it DURING THE BROADCAST.
      • 3 Months later, A&P do a reaction video about Fresh’s game from their time on the show.  There’s the thumbnail.  There’s the title.  And then they clip out parts  from Fresh and basically roast him and his game.
      • F/F decide to clap back.  Fit, the Sudanese guy, says that A&P are only doing this for clout.  And then brings Preach’s wife into it. Then challenge Preach to a boxing match
      • They finna throw hands?
      • Cooler minds prevailed, kinda?

The Good Old Days

The Spark 

I’ll have to do a point by point breakdown

The Reaction to the Reaction

The Escalation

The Fake Apology and Apology

And the coda

There are somethings happening here in terms of content.

Aba and Preach don’t know the red pill, and kinda don’t like it.  But Aba has some shades of RP in their content.  I’ve personally noticed a shift into “these crazy females” type stuff over the past 2 years.  I think I mentioned it on Reddit, cause I like them, but they’re built like that.

F&F are very red pill, just not really great on the debate and how to play these situations.

Rollo does a once over on A&Ps argument.  He kills it, even getting fed up with the BS.

Lemme put my cards on the table. As Youtubers, I prefer A&P.  Fresh and Fit, I can’t watch for the same reason I don’t really watch Kevin Samuels PAST HIS MONOLOGUE.

I don’t like to hear women argue.  I know a lot of guys like to see F&F put thots in their place, and watch Kevin Samuels dismantle these delusional chicks, but the second I hear the words

“I feel like…..”

I’m gone.

So what we have with A&P and F/F looks like

      • A fake fight (probably not)
      • A&P getting scared they’re losing their edge (they aren’t)
      • A&P trying to get the RP/Black Manosphere money (they aren’t)

I think Rollo is right, this is an ideological difference.

But it looks like this to me.

 

I’m gonna talk about 4 essential man skills that are part of the foundation of your overall game skills

  1. Operational Security
  2. Threat Recognition
  3. Emotional/Anger Management
  4. De-escalation and Conflict Resolution

OpSec – Bad Boys move in silence.  Everybody that’s moved up to notoriety in this area has been doxxed.  And the fallout affects their careers and their families.

F&F are “living out loud”, and as a result of the attention, they’re getting a lot of haters.  This is especially an issue when they both have some flaws in their game.

Threat Recognition – As a man, you have to be able to recognize threats.  This is Manhood 101 – protect your physical safety, safety of your loved ones, money, reputation, etc.

F&F didn’t really recognize the threat of A&P, and certainly did not think about what it would mean if they escalated it in the immature fashion that they did.

Never bring the wife and the kids into it.

Emotional Control/Anger Management – As a young bol or rookie in pick up, but in life – learning to keep your anger under wraps is crucial.  18 year old Archie would have gotten real reckless at some of the bs jobs I’ve worked and fake friends and ditzy chicks.  But I had that level of control built into me.

Part of the attack on masculinity, not just toxic masculinity, is getting little boys to open up about their feelings.

The feelings they want are ones of vulnerability, things that will be used against him.

Little boys have to be TAUGHT to not reveal those things BECAUSE the world is not a safe place.  There are predators out there that will prey on a boy’s, teen’s, man’s feelings.  Otherwise little boys are open books.

Valuable survival lessons…

There is a time to show anger, to show sadness – and that’s when showing these emotions (real or faked) will get you what you want.

Sometimes you gotta do something that puts people on NOTICE.

With your boss, homies, female you yapping to, it can be as simple as a shift in tone, eye contact, and NO. Letting them realize that they’re crossing a line.

To me the the A&P video was a sneak diss, a straight up character assassination.

But both Fresh and Fit LOST all composure.

De-escalation and Conflict Resolution.

The first thing a man should learn is how to fight.

But when things get real, the first thing a man should do is avoid conflict, kowtow if needed, and learn how to de-escalate a situation.

Plenty of dudes in the penitentiary and cemetery because they would not back down, cause of their egos.

I personally think that A&P should have reached out to F&F before putting out this video.

They didn’t.

Shots fired.

But then F&F should have then reached out behind the scenes to discuss it.

That’s not how they handled it.

And now…we gotta deal with this..

-Archie

2 thoughts on “Paying for Box”

  1. I watch A&P sometimes, decent low effort YouTube. Definitely not redpilled, but not disgustingly simps either.

    As it goes on YT, it almost doesn’t matter if A&P/F&F are actually having a beef or this is all just for clout. These sorts of blowups drive channel engagement. YT has been clamping down on all kinds of stuff but conflict between creators is one of those things right now, seeing as there are channels completely devoted to this sort of thing that have made their creators millionaires. Just look (or better yet don’t) at the shenannigans of H3H3, and the whole host of others like them. So it almost doesn’t matter if it’s real or memorex, the results will be the same. Now, which way will these various channels take it? If they see the bump in engagement, they might go over to the darkside and become drama channels, which I don’t really see A&P doing but what do I know.

    Excellent break down on OpSec, Threat Assessment, etc. Arch. My father was crap at a lot of things, but he did give me excellent Threat Assessment skills. Everybody can get got, but reducing the chances of that happening can go a long way to making sure that it never happens twice and doesn’t happen often.

  2. Its all a little embarrassing yet fascinating, …..if it was engineered drama why is once side getting bodied. The apologies are in….will they recover I wonder. Seems ‘Godfather’ has washed his hands of them too……

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